New Boat

[WhoDat]

Currently awaiting delivery of 2008 28 with Tower

[sunshineva]

Contratulations

Nice rig. What engines and Options did you get.

Pictures soon?

Good Luck

[capthorace]

Welcome to the group. I see you are in Wilmington, where are you going to keep your new ride?

[WhoDat]

All Options except swim platform and livewell. Twin Vortec 375hp. Cruise 30kts with a top end of 50mph. Have a 50 gallon livewell to use when needed, wanted room in cockpit. Added pedestal rocket launcher instead of chair. Keeping in Surf City behind the house in one the canals back there. How do you attach photos here? Electronics go on next week. Fired up for fall fishing on the break.

[capthorace]

Good Deal! Great to have another CC in the neighborhood.

[WhoDat]

Photo

Here is Photo

[sunshineva]

Nice picture, that is a beautiful boat. Nice neighborhood. PARKED next to another CC28.
I could see you outrigger lines but could not figure where your release clips are attached?

Thanks

[WhoDat]

Thanks! Clips are not on yet, electronics and rigging is set up for next week. Expecting delivery in 10 days!

[hammerhead]

Welcome

The engines you have in that boat, are they the 6.0??? with outdrives. Was wondering how you felt the low end performance is with that combination. Also would be curious to performance numbers after the break in was done.

Harry

[WhoDat]

Yes, they are the 6.0 GM Vortec Crusaders, but no outdrives, strickly I/O. It is the same engine that is in the Cadillac Escalade but made for marine environment. In extensive discussions with Mac at CC, he has stated the vast improvement to gas engines through technology gains and fuel consumption has brought the level of performance for gas engines to par. These engines are all electronically controled, and Mac could not have been any more positive on all of my questions. My biggest concern was this boat being a pig in a wallowing sea, and slow coming out of the hole. He reassured me that this would not be the case, that these engines would provide the power and torque needed. These engines also do not have the weight and do not take up as much space. It is also my understanding that the outdrives are a thing of the past, and any and all problems associated with the hull pre-2005 have been solved. (there were some slight cavitational problems with the I/O from what I hear) All in all, I was very satisfied with Mac's attention to detail on my questions and concerns, and am looking forward to receiving the boat. Mac has all but guaranteed me the speed and performance I was looking for, I have no reason to doubt him. Will let you know when Ihave the performance numbers for myself!

[JuliaGCC25]

Good luck

Good luck with the gas engines. As for myself, I do not think I will ever in my lifetime see gas engines obtain the same fuel economy, not to mention degree of safety that a diesel will provide. The 28 is a relatively heavy boat at around 15,000 pounds and I have a hard time believing that gas will approach the effiency of diesel. Ethanol (America's farce) is also a concern, as it sucks in water through your vents and if you dont use the vessel for a while it will settle in your tanks. Also, although you pay less for the gas, I feel your resale will be proportionatly much lower and harder than for a comparable 28 diesel. Sorry for the ramble, but for the quality boats that Mac and Co. produce diesels should be standard equipment.

[WhoDat]

Good luck with the gas engines. As for myself, I do not think I will ever in my lifetime see gas engines obtain the same fuel economy, not to mention degree of safety that a diesel will provide. The 28 is a relatively heavy boat at around 15,000 pounds and I have a hard time believing that gas will approach the effiency of diesel. Ethanol (America's farce) is also a concern, as it sucks in water through your vents and if you dont use the vessel for a while it will settle in your tanks. Also, although you pay less for the gas, I feel your resale will be proportionatly much lower and harder than for a comparable 28 diesel. Sorry for the ramble, but for the quality boats that Mac and Co. produce diesels should be standard equipment.

Thanks for the good luck wish. I understand your view. I agree with your statements, and it is true, the gas will not get the economy of the diesels, however, the $40,000 difference will purchase a great deal of gas, and any boater should be well aware of the dangers of gas, diesel, and the burn rate of fiberglass. After weighing all options, the gas suits me fine. Resale? I am buying the boat new, obviously, I am not looking at resale and hoping this is the perfect boat for me. If not, I'll take my lumps and move on to the next money pit. Thanks again.

[Bluefin 32]

Let's face it, Diesels in sportfishing boats have a near religious quality to them. I think many of us are pretty irrational about the decision given the huge cost premium for the Diesels.

I looked at a variety of scenarios when ordering my new 28 recently. It takes a very unlikely combination of high annual hours, big fuel price differentials, and high recapture at resale of the premium to break-even. I concluded that I was not very likely to see that result and thus it would be a good deal cheaper to get gas engines even with a big hit to resale -- and that was not even taking into consideration the cost of financing the higher purchase price for the Diesels since I will not have a loan.

So what did I choose after all that analysis? I am getting the least defensible economic choice of all -- Volvo D6-330s! My "rationale" if you want to dignify it with the term: I have a pathological fear of getting blown up by inboard gas engines, I want maximum cruising range, and most important, I want the huge torque at mid-range rpms and higher maximum continuous horsepower rating of the D6 that will help push the boat steadily through rough water regardless of load and give me a faster cruise speed when conditions permit. My boat is a "pleasure craft" and I think I will enjoy it more with the Diesels and I am willing to pay more for that is what it comes down to, not resale or fuel consumption or any of the other arguments people offer for choosing Diesel power.

Probably too long a diatribe but I think we should respect our fellow owners who don't follow the Diesel religion. Their choice makes perfectly good sense especially if they don't expect to run 250+ hours per year -- and they don't have to worry about wives or girlfriends complaining about that beautiful Diesel smell we love.

[DBV]

So, are gas engines considered a lot less safe the diesel or gas 4 stroke outboards? In the Great Lakes we see very few diesel engine Carolina's, because we don't go the range as in the ocean. So, effectively I am being told it is better to save the money and go with gas. But if it is a safety issue, that would worry me. I thought the new Crusaders were supposed to be really good and reliable engines. So, are they as reliable and safe as diesel's or outboards? Thanks!

[sunshineva]

HI DVB, It is not the engines, It is the tanks and fuel stored in the tanks!!!!