Need advice on used 28 CC

[CBBOY]

Just getting back into the boat market and I'm considering the 28 CC. I heard about this site and thought you all may be able to help me. I'm in the used boat market. Are there any years of the 28 CC to avoid? What do you think about the volvo's with I/0's? I have a long run to the stream so the extra speed would be great. What is the best setup for power on this boat? Inboard vs I/O? Diesel or gasoline? From what I have researched, you need at least 300's. My other concern is fuel consumption. My last boat had 225 4 stroke outboards and got about 1.5 mpg. Sorry for all the questions, but I was told this would be the best site for all the info I need!!
I appreciate all the info I get.

[backman]

Diesel Inboard is preferable

speed is less important on long runs to the stream than not having an outdrive hanging off the back and waiting to fail. Oh yeah; speed is less important than staying dry and the same height when its 3-5 on the way home

I'm happily running a 98 which I repowered from 230 diesel inboard to D4-260 diesel inboard and I have plenty of power. Others with D6-310's and yanmar 315's have more power than me; and probably cruise 5-10% faster. I think the real question you want to ask is how well does the engine package respond to 4-6' seas where you have to slow to 18 knots to stay in the water. that's where the torque of 300 HP makes a difference.

There are no bad CC28 years; newer is better as the product is continually improved. If possible try and buy one where the engine hatch is the full helm deck (2002 or later??) as opposed to the older ones like mine where the hatch is 2" narrower on either side than the engine room. Engine room access is critical with these boats.

We all get ~1.2 to 1.4 nmiles/gallon depending on load and condition. I can make it from Falmouth to the canyons and back (200 nmiles) troll all day and come home with 30-40 gallons left in the 210 (not 220) gallon tank. The Yanmar's and 4B-250's might have a hair better fuel economy.

[PurpleCedarPlug]

If you going to run to the stream, you going to want the diesel. I can't understand whay everybody thinks they need the big horsepower engines.

I have a 99 with Cummins 220's straight inboards and run 60+ miles to the canyons at 22-23kts which is a very comfortable ride. I get @1.2 nmpg which is great with todays fuel prices. Seldon is it flat enough out there to allow you to run much faster in a 28ft boat.

I think the load on the boat along with the condition of the boat/engines and seas is a highly contributing factor on you range and speed.

If you find one that's been well taken care of I'm sure you will be very pleased with the performance you get.

Good Luck in your search..

[Nutz]

Get diesel inboard, lowest hours possible, and don't pay what they are asking. I got my for $22k less than the asking price. Check out boats.com and sites like that. There are 2-3 for sale in the Virginia Beach paper right now, priced pretty good.

[CC28_NJ]

Be Careful about low hours

An older boat with low hour diesels, isn't necessarily a good thing. I would say anything older than a 2002 with less than 400 or so hours on it, means it sat a lot, and who knows what's going on inside them engines. Could do more harm than good if they were not properly cared for. Just something to think about.

[backman]

so that means

my CC28 1998 with 3000+ hr's is worth more than a newer one ?

[Bullish]

I have a 2002 with Volvo kamd 44p (260 hp each) straight inboard. They push the boat just fine to the canyon at 22 knots or 3050-3100 rpms. WOP is 3800-3900 rpms. I pick up an extra 1-2 knots on the way home if I've burned a lot of fuel, melted my ice, boated no fish, and drank all the beer.

I'm getting 1-1.2 miles per gallon. I have been told that you can do better with the new Volvo D4 or D6 engine.

Some newer enhancements since I bought my boat include a better seating arrangment for passengers and the disappearance of the live well to create more room in the cockpit. I would like this arrangment better than my model. Good luck with the purchase!

[stanley111]

I would agree with knowing the history of the boat , i bought mine ,2000 ,250 cummins , 125 hours . I didn.t do my homework just got to excited to buy at a really good price and have paid for it since . boat sat in the slip for a couple years . Finally got all the buggs worked out .I am sold on classics , you will be to once you get one .

[Lady Bridge]

I just bought a 2002 28' in November of 2006. Anxiously waiting for spring to arrive.

Here on Lake Erie I rarely run further out than 10 miles for walleye. My 28 has gas volvos 375 hp. You don't see alot of freshwater diesels here. Would you guys still recommend diesel for this use?

[CBBOY]

Stanely111

What bugs did you have to work out? I'm worried that the maintenance on inboards will nickel and dime me to death. I have a limited time to fish. I want to be able to turn the key and go.

[backman]

You may not like this but..

assume you have to spend 5K per engine in P.M. and regular maintenance over the next 12 months.

1. Change all fluids $$
2. Change impellers $
3. Change belts $
4. Change thermostats $
5. Clean all coolers $$$
6. expect an electrical suprise $$$
7. Go through all hoses and clamps and replace anything questionable $


I may seem overly pessimistic and you may not have to do all of these items on day 1, but from a safety's sake perspective you don't want to be wondering about any of the above 80 miles offshore.

[Bullish]

In my opinion, if you are looking for low maintenance (turn-key), twin inboard diesel or gas is not the way to go. Perhaps twin outboards is the way to go if you don't have time for maintenance.

[CBBOY]

You're correct about the outboards. My last boat had 225 four strokes and maintenance was a breeze....actually hardly any at all except oil and filter every 100 hours. The boat didn't ride all that well though.

[Bullish]

My Dad got a pair of the Etec's from Evinrude last Spring on the back of his 25 foot mako. The boat is fast and sips fuel. They even have a button on them that you push to winterize the engine. Perfect for him because he only wants to go up to 20 miles offshore and he's getting old so he doesn't to deal with high maintenance.

Honestly, I'll consider a 30-33 foot boat with outboards the next time I buy but I'll find it hard to give up the carolina.

Maybe a couple of other advantages to the inboards for offshore fishermen is that you can fix many problems offshore if you are prepared with the right tools and spare parts....I don't think most laymen can do much with those outboards. Also, I always hated the idea of having to work a tuna around the outboards on the transom.

[Hey Doc]

Inboards are not cheap

I agree with previous post. Inboards cost a good bit more to maintain than outboard boats, however you can't get the ride you have in a classic. If you want turn and go without much maintenance cost, maybe you should consider a regulator with four strokes. It's a tradeoff, but you it really depends on what you find more important, costs or comfort.