CC35

[doeboy]

I am considering a used CC35. all of the boats are beautiful. I love the 28 but my wife would like a little more cabin. the 32 would probably be ideal but the availability is an issue so I am looking at the used 35 boats. Are there any motors that were potentially problematic on that boat? any performance numbers anyone can share? Are the new common rail diesels really noticeably quieter with better performance? thanks all

[Split Decision]

The 35 is really a very nice boat. I don't think there were any problems with the Cummins engines. I don't know what else Mac put in them. I am a cummins guy so I can't comment on volvo or cat.

Yes the commonrail are a lot quieter then the mechanical. No smoke and better torque and HP curve. When I picked up my 32 at the factory they just brought out a 35 with the 540 commonrail cummins and the boat had a 34 kt cruise with a 38 kt top end. Thats fast for a 30,000 lb boat.

I have the 380 cummins commonrail on my boat and the generator makes more noise than both engines at idle.

Maybe someone else can comment on volvo or cat but you cant go wrong with cummins. If you can find one with the commonrail, that is the way to go.

[doeboy]

thanks split decision. your boat is beautiful and thanks again for sharing your experience. do you like your 380QSBs? it seemed like your wait was around a year for your 32, am I wrong about that? how would you compare the 32 to the 35 if you tried one? I saw your comparison of the cockpit, very close in size.

[Split Decision]

Doeboy, my wait was about 7 months. I looked around for a dealer that had one scheduled to start building in January. They take just about 11-12 weeks to build which gave me a april delivery. Just in time for our fishing season. There have been a few used 32 floating around but it seems they don't last very long. I dought that you will find a dealer with one that is'nt sold because Mac builds sold boats before dealer boats.

The big difference between the 32 and 35 is the cabin. The cockpit is 4" wider on the 35. I bought the 32 for 2 reasons.

1- I wanted a new boat and could not quite afford the 35.
2- I like the helm deck much better on the 32.

The 35 should ride a little better just because it is a longer and heavier boat but the 32 is not far behind.

I am very very happy with the QSB 380's. I was trying to get the new QSB 425 but just missed out on a pair. The boat just before mine got them first. I talked to Mac and he said they got a 29.5-30 kt cruise with them. Mine cruises at 26-27 kts. I would'nt give up these engines for anything else. At least I wont get sick from fumes when trolling because they hardly smell.

I seatrialed a 32 with 440 yanmars and you could'nt give them to me. Very noisey and stinkey. Not to mention that they vibrated a lot. Ride in a boat with the commonrail and see for your self. You will be surprised on how well they run.

[doeboy]

thanks again split decision. I like the cummins motors too and there is good support in our area. if I find a good one that's the way I will go. I have to think the CC hulls will last forever or at least as long as the Bertrams, which will be long enough for me.

[fishhard]

I just finished buying my used 35 and I know what every boat has sold for in the last 6 months. The 35 is a TANK..and not in the sense of the Tanks of yester year, these are modern A-1 Abrams of a boat. I delivered mine this past weekend from Beaufort...see my story in the introduction area.

I would highly reccomend the 35, and I think there is only one left in the 200's which there are asking 285 for, but should probably sell for about 235 to 245...I believe the guy takes immaculate care f it, but its still a 2000. I offered 225 which was rejected. All the rest (14) are 2002 or newer and they are in the 300's....there may be some marina boats/borkerage boats not listed at yachtworld, so make some calls to marinas. Town Creek in beaufort are very decent guys. I have expierence with svc dept.

My boat has the 450 cummins and dispite what one would think they smoke very little, mostly on excelleration and they clear up after the turbos spin up. I would not make the minimal smoke an issue.

And even though I was buying a used boat Mac and his son Keith have treated me like I was buying a new one. I can't say enough about them. As good as the boat is, there customer service is even better.

My plan is to hold this boat and buy a used 35 with 540's about three years from now. And if Mac would make a bigger one, it would be hard to pass it up too. But I think the competition is a bit tougher at that size, while nothing touches the CC35.

Feel free to ask me anything.

Very little on these boats age....exclude the soft goods and these boats used are 99% of what they were new. Thats how well they are made.

[doeboy]

thanks Fish hard. your boat sounds great. hope it has run well since the delivery. what kind of fuel economy do you get? how about trolling, can this be done without trolling valves? thanks

not sure on the economy yet..I think about .7 miles per gallon... I will know better on the next fill up....and yes she will troll very nicely anywhere from about 4 and up

[ReelLady]

http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/pl_boat_detail.jsp?&units=Feet&checked_boats=1331368&slim=broker&&hosturl=towncreek&&ywo=towncreek&

This is a boat in my marina. It is like new and been fished very little. Terry at Town Creek has it listed. It has Cummins 540's and should be a speed demon.

[doeboy]

thanks Reel Lady that is a beauty. not in the budget though. Fishhard, is the warranty on cummins motors 6 years declining for 2000 motors like it is on the new ones? Was there any warranty left on your boats motors? What do you anticipate the upkeep costs will be for your diesels on an annual basis? I am new to the diesel market. thanks again

Doeboy,

I am not really sure what the warrantee will be, I know I am fully warranteed untill 9/2007 because my owner bought an extended package. The cummins 450 are mechanical engines and are considered very reliable and inexpensive to maintain, compared to others. I think the common rail and electronic "480's" are more expensive to maintain, but I am not expert.

Oil change materials are about $250 and about a days labor, you probably have to do a cooling system go over every 1,000 hrs which is about 4000 for the pair, but all in all that really not alot. check out www.boatdiesel.com and see what they say about the cummins 450's..it is the best $25 you can spend.

[doeboy]

thanks again. do you have the refrigerated fish boxes? is that a great option? wonder how well it works if anyone has them.

[Split Decision]

Doeboy

I have 3 freezer boxes on my boat but don't have any real time experience with them yet. I can get them down to 0 deg. Start them up and they will be at 32 deg within 30 min.

Time will tell. I am hoping that I will not have to carry any ice.

[backman]

I fished on a fancy 57 Viking w/ chill plate boxes. We found out the hard way they will keep cold fish cold just fine, but they just plain suck at taking a hot, freshly bled and cleaned tuna and cooling it down.

Your still going to need to brine the fish down to 32 before dropping them into the cooler.

Backman,
Whats the best way to brine the tuna to get it to 32 deg. I usually bleed the tuna, remove the intestine/ then remove the head and fill the cavity with ice. I heard some guys add a little kosher salt.

[Split Decision]

Larry, my plan is to start cooling the boxes when we leave the dock and when we get outside the inlet fill them 1/2 with sea water and start cooling that down. I'm hoping with the 3 hr run to the canyon and the time it takes to catch some fish the water will be below freezing and use that to brine them. Now this all looks good on paper so we will have to give it a trial run.

Doeboy, to brine the tuna put them into a cooler filled with ice and then pump in some sea water. It will get so cold that you cant put your hand in their.

[backman]

We typically go out with 6 25 pound blocks of ice for a day trip, double that for a canyon trip. Those are kept in coolers to avoid any meltage. The CC 28 fishboxes insulation is not that great and ice will melt in it on a warm day especially w/ engine heat from below also cooking it.

When the 1st fish worth talking about comes on board 2 25# blocks get cracked in half, put in one fishbox and sprinkled with kosher salt. The fish is put in the box, sea water is added to float and mostly cover the fish.

The salt melts the ice and superchills the water down to 32 in no time. Flip the fish in 30 minutes and when more come in transfer the cold fish to the cooler. You can leave the fish in the brine all day and it will come home in amazing shape; ready to be cut into sushi that night.

Tom - that plan should work - I guess you know that surface cold on a hot tuna is a waste of time!

[Split Decision]

Yea Larry, it is pretty much useless. With one of our Mako's we caught last year we got home late and did not want to steak it up so we put it in the freezer over night. Late morning we took it out and the only spot that was frozen was the skin where it touched the side of the box. the rest was just cold.

Need to put them in brine to cool them down.

[doeboy]

I appreciate the fishing info as well. I am pretty new to the offshore sport. I have been landing a few decent grouper and king mackeral but haven't made the 55mile run to the gulf stream around here for the tuna fish. I hope to soon